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Sep 7, 2021 – Skeletal and mummified ancient remains from the Atacama Desert in what is now Chile show evidence of a surge of extreme violence tied to the rise of farming, a new study finds. The team analyzed the remains of 194 people who lived between 1000 B.C. and A.D. 600 in the Atacama Desert…
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I guess this will revive the old debate about whether war is a natural state for human beings or a product of civilization.
As soon as people have something to fight over
The rise of agriculture in an area implies that it’s displacing an earlier way of life, I would think. It’s possible this is just material evidence of social strife in a period of societal upheaval. The two world war can also be seen this way, for example.
People become reliant on a good harvest, and eventually the population outstrips the food supply, either because of a poor harvest or rapid population growth. Violence results and brings the population back down to sustainable levels. It’s the same way any animal population is controlled naturally
Could do with a film on this like, mental pre jebus warfare
I can’t quite figure out wtf happened to the woman described in the article. They pulled her lips up over her nose? And her real mouth ended up sealed shut? What happened to the nose, was it still there? Fuckin’ bizarre
Probably the same shit we have today. Some people wanted to farm. It was hard and took time but it provided food, shelter and work for people and some anti farmer people probably protested and got angry and denied the benefits of farming as whole and waged war on these people and as history is known to do through evolution and marxs dialectics the superior method/ Ideologically sound method won out… we still farm today and hunter gatherer societies are basically non existent on a large scale.
Its pretty much human nature for us to create something that betters humanity and someone comes around and fucks it up and everyone dies horribly.
I’ve been going through Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari and he explains a lot of our early history. This seems congruent with what I’ve learned. If you’re curious, check it out! I’m only halfway though but really like it
Humans hate change – I imagine a new way of life was threatening to those opposed to it, likely to the extent of issuing violence upon the proponents of the new way, even if objectively better from our view.
substitute “farming” with “social media” and you’ve got a spot on prophecy for the next few hundred years of human existence
So… it’s like the older ancient people got mad at the younger ancient people for being sissy “gatherers” not hunters.
Kinda like how those alpha guys bug the “beta” males, oh how far we’ve come.
When you make large labor investments in land – landscaping, irrigation, etc. You create something that must be owned and defended. Agriculture and property go hand-in-hand, and property and war go hand-in-hand as well.
Is that an early xenomorph?
This sounds a lot like what every society that discovers agriculture goes through, a religious need for sacrifice to enact the original birth/death that allows for the food to grow because there is a systematic killing to make room for it. One could witness these rights as late as the 20th century in neolithic farming villages of New Guinea and India. The sacred idea of life existing on death comes into society at the time of agriculture. You see it in Europe, the Americas, Africa, and as noted, Asia. It is not a surprise that the process was accelerated with time, as this tends to be the result if another advance (usually writing but there may be others) is not made.
We even have analogues in the Americas where Inca and Mexica would torture victims before sacrificing them, in the case of the Mexica, IIRC Tlaloc, really preferred his child sacrifices be proceeded by as many tears from the victim as possible. The Inca would routinely starve their sacrifices into submission as far as the bones show.
This says a lot about Industrial Society and it’s Future
Look for traces of marijuana??
Farmers are violent. Consider Rome. Consider Germany. Consider the USA.