Do you think the topic of sexual orientation/gender identity should be discussed in education of K-12, why or why not?

Do you think the topic of sexual orientation/gender identity should be discussed in education of K-12, why or why not?

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  1. Yeah, but in a Mr. Rogers kind of way. Growing up Mr. Rogers addressed the topic of racism on his show, but in a way that it wasn’t complicating things beyond my 7-year old brain. “People can be different. Be nice to people” is more than sufficient.

  2. If kids are old enough to learn that heterosexual relationships and cis genders exist, they’re mature enough to learn about gay and trans issues.

  3. My niece is 5 and she’s already well aware that “sometimes men marry men or women marry women.”

    A kid would have to be living under a rock to not notice same sex couples by the time school sex ed rolls around (I think usually in the 5th grade).

  4. Of course. If someone is married, you can explain that to a child of any age. Why is it okay to tell them a man and a woman are married but not two men or two women?

  5. The topic IS discussed in every school K-12 and will always be…. by the kids.

    The question (and thing we have control over) is: do we want to involve the adults in this conversation or not?

    I think it’s hard to argue that letting kids learn from kids on this matter is going to create a better outcome than involving adults (regardless of your viewpoints). Kids are spewing both hyper liberal and hyper conservative points on this matter. The only thing they have in common is probably being very uninformed. So I’d say involving the teachers in teaching about this is a good move.

    That said, I’d be fine with keeping it very high level and un-opinionated. If the school solely taught things supported by the consensus of studies by doctors, psychologists, etc. and steered clear of teaching ideology, that’d be a decent compromise for parents who do not want teachers pushing their personal political ideologies (in either direction) on children. For example, don’t teach kids what is “okay” and not or what we “should” do. Show them studies that shows what happens to different kinds of people who are treated different ways.

  6. Absolutely! In the same age-appropriate ways that we discuss heterosexuality (for young kids, that’s reading books that have heterosexual parents and we should include queer parents as well). We should also discuss queer sex in sex-ed if you have more than an abstinence only education— many young sapphic people don’t know they can still get STDS and what types of protection to use! It’s important that we normalize and understand other types of people

  7. Grew up in Texas with ZERO sex ex, body ed, or anything of the sort.

    I legitimately thought I had cancer and was dying when I started to get pubes. Told nobody, because that wasn’t the sort of thing you discussed in my family. Planned for my death throughout most of 5th grade, until one of my friends told me I wasn’t dying.

    Teach your fucking kids about their bodies.

  8. As a parent and grandparent I think we should shtick to the traditional mom/dad talking to child and at 5th or 6th grade they have a sterile health class with facts about puberty and sex being given not opinions.
    As far as the whole pronoun/gender whatever thing let’s just teach them that some people have different ideas, feelings, beliefs then the child does and shouldn’t be condemned because of that if the child had questions about sexuality they should be able to talk to the parents
    Don’t tell them they’ll go blind by masturbating.

  9. To me, there’s nothing wrong with talking about it or educating children on how people choose to live their life.

    For some reason though, weird people think that it’s like pushing anything on the kids. Like if they see a man hold hands with a man then they’ll catch the gay or something.

  10. Some of the kids have non-binary identity.

    Trans people have 50% mortality by suicide.

    Isn’t it worthwhile to prevent some of our children dying unnecessarily?

  11. Yes. Ppl have to grow up knowing what’s out there and how others may see the world or identify. Accepting those who are different and giving them a chance to live a normal life Starts in childhood. Once kids get polluted with bigoted and hateful conservative garbage they become assholes and we have to avoid that from happening.

  12. Health class, freshman year or between 13-15 y/o. It makes sense to start discussing this when hormones start to change and the body starts to develop.

  13. Kindergarten? Probably not. Kids are learning how to generally behave with one another.

    When serial education comes around, for me was in 4th grade teaching kids about puberty and the basics. I think that’s fine, but it really should only be touched on.

    Every year after getting more information it should be progressed so that budding adults understand that there WILL be people developing these identities and orientations.

    You don’t teach geometry before you learn to count.

    Let kids be kids. When you’re 13+ its crucial to give kids the opportunity to think like they’re functioning people.

  14. My three year old already understands pronouns and how to ask other people what pronouns they use. She has had a teacher in a same-sex relationship. It’s really not that hard to teach it early and the earlier it is taught the easier it is for kids to understand. If by kindergarten a kid still hasn’t heard any of this then they already have a lot of implicit bias, and ignoring it in the classroom may mean kids are misgendering classmates or ignoring some classmates’ family compositions. How many times in even elementary are kids asked to talk about their families? Well some of those families are same-sex couples, if we don’t teach kids about these things we set them up for judging and bullying.

  15. It should all be discussed in an age appropriate manner.

    To all the people saying it shouldn’t be discussed in kindergarten, why the hell not? You’re going to have kindergartners with homosexual parents, are we really supposed to just treat those kids as freaks until a later age?

    This is a subject where it seems people with closeted bigotry come out. If you’re going to say there’s nothing wrong with homosexual relationships, why would you want to hide something that has nothing wrong with it from children?

    It’s clear a lot people have learned to be tolerant (which is good) but still cling to the vestiges that homosexuality is something bad that needs to be hidden from kids. Why is explaining that some people have two moms or two dads bad for any age?

  16. It shouldn’t be discussed as a lesson of any kind, because that allows a school district or individual teacher to indoctrinate students on the subject.

    However, speech between students about it should not be silenced. People should never be restricted from being people.

  17. There’s an appropriate time for everything and that time is not FIFTH fucking grade! Can we let the kids have a childhood please? Honestly parents should teach their children about sex I have no idea where this idea that it’s the schools responsibility to educate EVERYTHING. I guess we should have learned how to file taxes and open a bank account and make our bed and fold laundry in school too? Matter of fact why do we even have parents, we should just get shipped off to Life Education Camp at about 2 so our parents are free to work themselves to death without the burden of teaching their child anything at all. I am so fucking sick of this place I don’t know what to do.

  18. I don’t think it should specifically be taught at a young age, but acceptance and inclusion should be taught at all ages. If a kid asks a question, it can be answered but I don’t think that attention needs to be drawn to it.

    I do think that private schools shouldn’t be forced to discuss it if they don’t want. The parents should.

  19. I think that kids should be made aware of the fact that gay people exist. I think they should also be made aware that sexual identity isn’t black or white. Obviously going into more detail should be left up to the parents but unfortunately many parents aren’t equipped to handle these types of discussions. The end result is kids who are left feeling alienated, shunned or who think they’re freaks for not fitting into the molds that they think society expects them to fit into. This of course leads to all sorts of negative issues such as depression, anxiety, and even suicide. The old adage of “lets keep it real” applies here. We as a society should not pick and choose topics for discussion because some people are uncomfortable with those topics. We don’t know how children will develop and grow and at a young age, we don’t know what they will become. If we send the message to them early on that this or that is terrible (or pretend it doesn’t exist,) and if those kids happen to be this or that then it’s a disaster that could have been prevented with the right and thoughtful education.

  20. If a kid is old enough to understand that people can have a mom and a dad, they can understand that people have have two moms or two dads.

    We already bring up topics of sexual orientation and gender identity in K-12. It’s just specific to heterosexuality and cisgender identity. The same people complaining about the inclusion of non-heterosexual orientations and non-cisgender identities don’t seem to realize that those are sexualities and gender identities

  21. Yes, especially when they get to middle and high school which is when most people start figuring out their real sexual orientation and gender identity

  22. acknowledging it is great, promoting one way or the other not so great. Teach them to be aware of the differences in people, and to accept them as they are regardless of how you are. Leave it at that.

  23. Yes, it’s perfectly healthy for children to come in terms and express their identity. It’s even healthier for us adults to validate their identity

  24. Because of the multiple meanings and possible incorrect applications of the word “sex” and “sexual”, it’s important to note that “sexual orientation” is not necessary sexual. It is normal for young kids to have crushes, and we don’t usually think of that as “sexual”. Perhaps a better, more technically accurate term is necessary, like “attraction orientation” or something.

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